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PostPosted: Wed 6/30/21 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodger ladies, I have got to ask. What are your thoughts on Trevor being accused of sexual assault? Article from mlb.com

I was shocked, not that I think he is not capable of it but when I read the woman is from San Diego, too, and his attorney says they have evidence it was consensual. I am guessing you are confused and not sure what to think. I would feel that way if it were one of our guys and the evidence said something else. I would tend to believe him more but I say let this play out, like I do with most other cases where claims are made. Let the facts be presented.
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PostPosted: Wed 6/30/21 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you predicted my response well because right now I don't have one. I can say one thing for sure, if he is innocent of the charges, he is still guilty of poor judgment. Not a criminal charge, I know.
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PostPosted: Thu 7/1/21 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I have a lot to say about this? Just give me time to copy and paste what I've posted on other pages about it. It's very distressing to me.
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PostPosted: Fri 7/2/21 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trevor has been placed on administrative leave.

I thought it was weird he was still slated to pitch on Sunday morning in Washington, with all this swirling around the team. I can't see them not being distracted by it, or him either.
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PostPosted: Sat 7/3/21 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here we go, Bill Plaschke and Dylan Hernandez both weighing in.
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PostPosted: Sun 7/4/21 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now a lot of people don't like Bill Plaschke. I thought the column was pretty good, but predictable.
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PostPosted: Sat 7/10/21 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raul and I were talking about this the other day. Sunny, you mentioned once you have friends who know the Bauer family? And they are pretty good people? How embarrassing this must be for them. Regardless if he is guilty or not I cannot imagine what they are going through. Everything about this story is pretty disgusting.
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PostPosted: Thu 7/15/21 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but I lost touch with them a few years ago. I agree, it's bad all around. I think Trevor may have thrown his last pitch for the Dodgers. His leave time has been extended. But I can't see them bringing him back even if he's cleared. This isn't going to end well no matter how it goes.

I know that with the seriousness of these accusations being made, maybe I shouldn't worry about it, but I sure hope the Dodgers don't get stuck paying the tab on him. I think they will and he will have pitched for them only 2 months out of that big contract.
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PostPosted: Sat 7/17/21 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this takes the attention off Trevor but now there is another administrative leave, due to domestic violence, and it involves Nationals third baseman Starlin Castro, for domestic violence. Article from mlb.com

Reading the comments, it is good to see their manager speak out so strongly against DV and say it has to be addressed everywhere.
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PostPosted: Sun 7/25/21 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, boy. Not only was Trevor's court hearing scheduled for Friday delayed, but this story and the rumors surrounding it just get uglier. I have practically banged my head against the wall reminding some "fans" that rumors aren't necessarily true, and gossip websites aren't known to be factual.

So obviously none of this is corroborated, but the "stories" on-line are that the accuser was formerly employed on the Pad Squad but lost her job after having affairs with two of the players (who are named--El Niño and Mike Clevinger). I've been just as tired of hearing "it was a set-up" without anything substantial being cited, but this is what's being said...so even if there's nothing to it, the Pad Squad may have to do some damage control.

Then, today's L.A. Times reported the following, assumed to be a more professional account of what has taken place.


"2021 Hindsight: Inside the Trevor Bauer Disaster and how the Dodgers Got Here"

BY MIKE DIGIOVANNA, STAFF WRITER
JULY 25, 2021 5 AM PT

What could be Trevor Bauer’s last public comment in a Dodgers uniform was uttered in frustration as the pitcher stood up to leave a videoconference following a 3-2 victory over the San Francisco Giants on June 28.

“I can’t believe they didn’t ask me about f — ing Angel Hernandez,” Bauer said, making no attempt to hide his disdain for the much-maligned umpire.

Bauer had pitched well that Monday night, limiting the National League West- leading Giants to two runs in six innings and striking out eight. Nearly halfway through the season, Bauer was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA and a then NL-best 137 strikeouts in 107 2/3 innings .

He received a rousing ovation from a Dodger Stadium crowd of 47,835 after escaping a sixth-inning jam, pounding his chest three times and pointing both arms toward fans above the third-base dugout as he walked off the mound.

But Bauer seemed irritated, a bit distracted, during a brief postgame video call in which several of his answers were clipped and his walk-off quote was tinged with scorn.

A day later, the scattershot strike zone of a notoriously erratic umpire and the inadequate inquiries of a few sportswriters would be the least of Bauer’s concerns. That morning a San Diego woman obtained an ex parte temporary restraining order against Bauer in Los Angeles County Superior Court. In the 85-page document, the woman alleged that the pitcher had choked her to the point of losing consciousness during two sexual encounters in the spring and injured her during the second. Bauer, through his representatives, said the encounters were “wholly consensual.”

Three days would pass before Bauer was placed on paid administrative leave — a non-disciplinary action — by Major League Baseball and he has remained there while MLB investigates the right-hander for a possible violation of its joint domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse policy. Separately, the Pasadena Police Department has continued its investigation of Bauer, launched in May, for possible felony assault.

Already one of the game’s most polarizing players before these allegations, Bauer, 30, has sparked an outcry among fans, some who want the Dodgers to immediately sever ties with the 2020 NL Cy Young Award winner and question why a defending World Series champion signed him in the first place, and some who are concerned about a rush to judgment before Bauer has had a chance to defend himself in court.

Bauer’s career is in jeopardy, and his stay with the Dodgers could be over, the sexual-assault allegations having turned a pitcher in his prime into a pariah in his own clubhouse, where no teammate has spoken publicly about him or come to his defense. Two people with knowledge of Dodgers clubhouse dynamics, who are unauthorized to speak publicly about the situation, said that a majority of players do not want Bauer back under any circumstances.

Even if he is not charged with a crime, Bauer could be facing a lengthy MLB suspension without pay. Since MLB implemented its domestic violence policy in the summer of 2015, 14 players — five of whom were placed on paid administrative leave — have been suspended for violating it, with suspensions ranging from 15 to 162 games.

All of which raises the question: Will Trevor Bauer throw another pitch for the Dodgers or any other major league team? And, more consequentially, why was he here in the first place?

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The first indication that the Dodgers were interested in Bauer came in a Dec. 16 story by The Los Angeles Times’ Jorge Castillo, who wrote that the team “would likely entertain adding Bauer only if he is open to a short-term deal.”

That possibility gained steam on Jan. 20, when ESPN’s Jeff Passan tweeted that the Dodgers were “monitoring the market” for Bauer and “could be a player depending on the price.”

Starting pitching didn’t appear to be a need last winter. The rotation looked stacked with Walker Buehler, Clayton Kershaw, Julio Urías, Dustin May and Tony Gonsolin. Veteran left-hander David Price was returning after opting out of the 2020 season because of coronavirus concerns.

But the Dodgers’ hand was being forced by the upstart San Diego Padres, who had gone on an offseason binge, signing their electric shortstop Fernando Tatis Jr. to a 14-year, $340 million contract. They bolstered their rotation by acquiring Yu Darvish, Blake Snell and Joe Musgrove; the Dodgers, winners of eight straight NL West titles, did not want to lose an arms race to their division rivals.

Bauer would come with a cost beyond his salary. He had a history of harassing and bullying women online, mocking transgender people and spreading conspiracy theories. Still, the Dodgers, enamored with Bauer’s durability and dependability on the mound, continued their pursuit.

Then came a Feb. 4 USA Today report that Bauer had agreed to a deal with the Mets.

“I went to bed [that] night really bummed and thinking it wasn’t going to work out,” Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman said.

By the next morning, however , the Dodgers had hammered out the final details of a three-year, $102-million contract that would pay Bauer $38 million this season and included $32-million player options for 2022 and 2023.

Friedman touted the team’s vetting process, saying background checks of Bauer included conversations with former teammates, coaches, clubhouse personnel and athletic trainers from Arizona, Cleveland and Cincinnati, where Bauer previously played. He added that he and team president Stan Kasten had multiple conversations with Bauer about his use of social media.

“The most important thing,” Friedman said at a Feb. 11 news conference at Dodger Stadium introducing Bauer, “is every teammate we talked to, all the feedback we got from every organization he was with, was not only incredibly positive in terms of the type of teammate he is but also in terms of the impact that he makes on each organization.”

Bauer focused on local ties. The Santa Clarita Hart High graduate and former UCLA star chose the Dodgers over the Mets, he said, because he wanted to help his hometown team win a second consecutive World Series.

“I used to sit in the bleachers right over there as a kid, watching [batting practice] with my dad and listening to Vin Scully on the radio,” Bauer said during his introductory news conference. “I’ve been a longtime Dodger fan and couldn’t be more excited to be here with the group we have.”

He steered clear of more difficult subjects that day, notably his online behavior, vowing only to be better.

“Everyone makes mistakes in the past — I try to learn from them as quickly as I possibly can,” he said. “I’ve spent a lot of time talking to people to try to understand other peoples’ perspectives, and I’m doing my best to be better in all walks of life. I am committed to being better on social media, to being better on the field, in the clubhouse, and in life in general.”

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The Dodgers were confident that Bauer would conform to a team-first culture cultivated by such veterans as Kershaw, third baseman Justin Turner and outfielder Mookie Betts. And the initial signs suggested clubhouse acceptance and buy-in.

“I think our clubhouse does a really good job of taking in all types of personalities, different people, and getting the best out of them,” Kershaw, a 14-year veteran and three-time NL Cy Young Award winner, said early in spring training. “And we expect that with Trevor. We’re going to let Trevor be himself and do what he’s continued to do over the course of his career.”

Kershaw and Buehler said their conversations with Bauer focused primarily on pitching — how to process and utilize advanced statistics, how to attack certain hitters and different grips with which they might experiment.

“I’m excited to talk to him about … different ways to get the most out of what you’re doing,” Kershaw said in spring training. “I think he’s going to make us all better.”

Betts, too, was more excited about Bauer’s credentials than he was concerned about his accompanying baggage.

“I mean, obviously, you get a Cy Young winner and you’re going to be excited,” Betts said in late February. “But all those things are ... he is who he is. You know what you’re getting, so I don’t really worry about it. It doesn’t bother me.

“He goes out there and competes, he gets wins … I don’t know what more you can ask for. He’s got to be Trevor Bauer. You can’t try to turn him into someone else.”

Bauer went through spring training and the first three months of the regular season relatively incident-free. He gave the Dodgers All-Star results — quality starts in 14 of 17 games, 11.5 K/9 and a 1.003 WHIP (walks plus hits per innings pitched).

“He has conversations with one guy, with four guys,” Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said as recently as May 31. “He’s different, but he likes to talk baseball, and I love it, because typically, as you guys have seen, our guys don’t sit around and talk.”

It was a social-media exchange that triggered the series of events that led to Bauer’s sexual-assault allegations.

After giving up one run and three hits in six innings of a 5-2 loss at San Diego on April 18, Bauer, according to the court filing, exchanged private messages with a woman who had tagged him in an Instagram post. Three days later, on April 21, the two met at Bauer’s Pasadena home.

In the restraining order request, the woman wrote that a sexual encounter that night was “consensual and non-threatening” until Bauer “began putting his fingers down my throat in an aggressive manner,” and soon thereafter “wrapped my hair around my neck and choked me.”

The two continued to communicate over the next three weeks. In a May 9 text-message exchange that Bauer’s representatives provided to The Times, the woman told Bauer that she had “never been more turned on in my life” by him choking her. “Gimme all the pain. Rawr.”

The Times has not been able to authenticate messages cited by the woman in the restraining order request or by Bauer’s attorney.

The woman met Bauer at his home again on the night of May 15, after Bauer had thrown seven scoreless, two-hit innings, struck out 10 and walked none in a 7-0 win over the Miami Marlins.

Bauer, the woman wrote, again wrapped her hair around her neck, choked her and caused her to lose consciousness. This time, she wrote, Bauer “began punching my face,” and then “punched me hard with a closed fist to the left side of my jaw, the left side of my head, and both cheekbones.”

She wrote that she drove back to her San Diego home and awoke the next day with a split lip, a swollen jaw and cheekbones, two black eyes, “over 10” scratches on her face, and bruises on her gums, buttocks and vagina.

In the next 18 hours, she underwent two medical examinations, one that diagnosed her with “an acute head injury and assault by manual strangulation,” and sat for interviews with detectives from police departments in San Diego and Pasadena.

On Friday, May 21, the woman wrote that she drove to the Pasadena Police Department to record a “cold call” with Bauer in which she asked Bauer what he did when she was unconscious. The transcript of the phone call has not been publicly released.

That night, Bauer threw one of his best games of the season, giving up one unearned run and two hits and striking out 11 in 6 1/3 innings of a 2-1 win at San Francisco.

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Five weeks later, the temporary restraining order was obtained, throwing Bauer’s career into limbo. MLB has twice extended the pitcher’s paid administrative leave, which now runs through Tuesday. The Dodgers removed a Trevor Bauer bobblehead night, which was set for Aug. 19, from their promotional schedule and pulled Bauer merchandise from their online and stadium team stores.

A prolific Twitter, Instagram and YouTube user, Bauer hasn’t posted on social media since the sexual-assault allegations surfaced. He has been seen on social media only once, when a Twitter user posted a picture of Bauer and his agent, Rachel Luba, at Utah’s Zion National Park on July 12.

On Friday Bauer made his first public appearance since being placed on leave, attending a hearing in Los Angeles Superior Court to determine whether the restraining order will remain in effect. His accuser was also in attendance. After the two sides argued they needed more time to review recently-disclosed evidence, the judge granted a continuance until early August.

A lengthy MLB suspension of Bauer without pay would provide some salary relief for the Dodgers, who still owe Bauer about $75 million.

Bauer’s contract is not publicly available, so whatever grounds the Dodgers might have to void it are unknown. However, the standard player contract allows a team to terminate a deal should the player “fail, refuse or neglect to conform his personal conduct to the standards of good citizenship and good sportsmanship.”

Questions remain about the Dodgers’ vetting process, and why an organization that President Biden described as “a pillar of American culture and American progress” in a White House ceremony on July 2 — the same day Bauer was placed on his first paid administrative leave — would sign Bauer in the first place.

“You can talk to Andrew [Friedman] more about that,” Kasten said of the vetting process that afternoon, before a game at Nationals Park. “I think this would not be a good time for him to address that. But we did a fair amount, like we always do. And that’s really all I’m comfortable saying right now.”

And, of course, the biggest question of all: Will Bauer play again for the Dodgers?

“I don’t have any way of answering that because, right now, this is in the hands of the Commissioner’s office,” Kasten said. “Let’s get through that [process] and then we’ll be able to discuss that more in-depth.”

The National Sexual Assault Hotline can be reached 24 hours a day at 1-800-656-4673.



Times staff writer Jorge Castillo and assistant sports editor Steve Henson contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Mon 7/26/21 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed

I wonder if there is a shred of truth to that. That could really blow up fast. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed 7/28/21 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Oh my! I know nothing more about it although I did hear the rumors a couple of weeks back that a Padre fan might be involved given the location where the woman lived. If that was the case you would think he could have been a bit suspicious, right? I hope this is not true but these days I never rule out anything.
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PostPosted: Thu 7/29/21 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, it's something I really don't want to give a lot of thought to and let it play out. I'm not saying that baseball, the game, is more important than a criminal investigation, or even just an ethical investigation if no crime were committed. However, I'd rather not dwell on any of this right now because the issue itself is not ongoing; all that's left is sorting out what really happened and why.

Even if both parties were guilty of poor judgment (which appears to be the case, to me), from a business standpoint, the Dodgers are still down a pitcher and probably will not have his services again. Furthermore, our team (the individual players, not upper management) seems to be united against it. What happens with the parties involved will be decided by Major League Baseball and criminal investigators, not the fans. From a baseball perspective, though, the Dodgers need to move on.
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PostPosted: Wed 8/18/21 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading about the accuser's testimony I realized that what you posted awhile ago as "rumor" has actually turned out to be true, especially the part about the Pad Squad and her sexual encounters with Padre players! Of course that does not mean I support physical abuse of a woman but this just adds a different wrinkle to the story overall. And there is another thing, she lost her job for getting involved with players. It is a shame they do not teach the players not to get involved with the Pad Squad. Double standard, I know.
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PostPosted: Wed 8/18/21 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sure is. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun 8/22/21 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting in this thread for 2 reasons.

1, the judge did not grant the restraining order for Trevor's accuser. I'm not really surprised but at the same time he's hardly doing himself any favors.

2, former Pirates pitcher Felipe Vásquez was convicted and sentenced to 2 to 4 years in prison for child sexual abuse - here's an article from SI.com about it.
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PostPosted: Sat 8/28/21 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reposted from a blog, written by an attorney about how Trevor won the hearing but didn't win much else--analyzing how it played out with mixed messages.

In other news, the Pasadena Police Department has turned the case over to the L.A. County District Attorney.
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PostPosted: Sat 8/28/21 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That brings up some good points that seem kind of contradictory.

But here on another subject, a former MLB player, Juan Encarnacion, is standing accused of sexually assaulting his minor daughter, in the D.R. This is another very disturbing story! Here's the article.
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PostPosted: Thu 9/2/21 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mets GM Zack Scott has been arrested for DUI and placed on administrative leave - article from mlb.com
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PostPosted: Tue 9/7/21 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, every now and then this thread must return to Trevor. Lost in all the hoopla of the big rivalry weekend is the fact that MLB has extended his leave...for the eighth time!
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PostPosted: Tue 2/8/22 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is blowing up all over, Trevor will not face any charges for this incident. It's probably fair from a criminal viewpoint even though the thought of what they did was disgusting. So now the question will be, does he have a future with the Dodgers? I don't think so. They've been making a point of pointing to character ever since Yasiel left. I guess that conversation about his future will go to the Hot Stove thread, though. I sure hope both he and the woman involved get some kind of counseling. Here's the link.
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PostPosted: Wed 2/9/22 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying to digest this for awhile. First, I thought, "well, he's not guilty of breaking any law." Then I went back to my conflicting feelings of last year about whether or not one should inflict pain on another even if asked, to the point where there is so much physical damage.

Now, I'm questioning a lot. I was reading social media sources last night when all of a sudden Dodger fans started posting about whether they should take Trevor back as a pitcher, how much he could help the team, etc. I was curious as to why this was brought up on several pages and when I searched his name, learned that no charges were filed. I'm sure he exhaled. Then came the free-for-all of Dodger fans arguing back and forth whether or not he should pitch. My initial thought was, just let him go--but they're stuck paying his salary. Then I watched the video he had posted about "the truth", and it actually sounds believable--in other words, I wondered if she could challenge anything he said at all. He at least acknowledges he made "poor choices" which is a start. He claims that when she left, she looked nothing like she does in the pictures that have circulated. Which brings up another set of questions. What happened afterward and how did she end up that way?

And so...I'm confused again. I don't know what to think or what position to take on a potential return. Frankly, I think there's something to what Dave Stewart said last year when he refuse to join the '81 world champion Dodgers for their 40-year reunion at Dodger Stadium--if the O'Malleys still owned the team, he'd have been gone in a heartbeat.

Yet, these are different times now, unfortunately. Regardless of what some people have claimed, I'm not trying to judge either of the people involved and just want to say that I hope they individually seek professional help.
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PostPosted: Wed 2/9/22 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be a tough call for me if he were a Padre.

I see this article is from the Times, but I am linking it from the Union Tribune - here

You Dodger ladies have probably read it. It is from a legal standpoint.
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PostPosted: Sun 2/20/22 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although technically this is not still "blotter" news, I'm including it here anyway to continue the drama as this story plays out.

From the L.A. Times:

"Trevor Bauer Accuser Fights Pitcher’s Subpoena Seeking Her Phone Records"


BY BILL SHAIKIN, STAFF WRITER
FEB. 19, 2022 12:40 PM PT

The woman who unsuccessfully sought a restraining order against Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer has asked a court to assess $10,000 in sanctions against him and his lawyers for pursuing legal action her attorney claimed “suggests that Mr. Bauer is indeed looking for a way to continue harassing and disturbing” the woman.

On February 7, the day before the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office said it would not file criminal charges against Bauer for sexual assault, Bauer’s attorneys served a subpoena on the Pasadena Police Department seeking all of the woman’s cellphone records. In a court filing this week, attorneys for the woman asked an L.A. County Superior Court judge to throw out the subpoena.

A hearing is set for April 4.

That date is four days after the start of the Major League Baseball season, provided owners and players reach a new collective bargaining agreement in time to preserve the current schedule. Representatives for Bauer and the league declined to comment Saturday on how the timing of the hearing might affect MLB’s disciplinary process.

The league has the right to suspend a player for violating its sexual assault policy, even if the player is not charged with a crime. Bauer has yet to meet with MLB investigators, and information from the phone records could theoretically help him make the case that he did nothing wrong and should not be suspended.

In a letter included in the latest filing, the Pasadena City Attorney’s office asked Bauer’s attorneys to withdraw the subpoena, arguing in part that publicity surrounding the Bauer case could mean “future victims of sexual abuse may be dissuaded from reporting abuse” if the subject of an investigation and the public could access personal records “even outside of a civil or criminal trial.”

In response, Bauer attorney Shawn Holley wrote: “There is no public interest in shielding those who make materially misleading complaints from disclosure of information that exculpates the alleged perpetrator.” In her ruling, the judge who rejected the restraining order said the woman had made “materially misleading” statements.

A previous court filing by Bauer claimed he intended to use the phone records in asking that the woman be ordered to pay the fees of his attorneys, arguing the woman misused the restraining order process to “gain publicity and harm [Bauer’s] career” and “deliberately and systematically deleted and hid much information … including communications with her closest friends that revealed her improper motive.”

Bauer’s legal team submitted a court filing stating its intention to seek legal fees, but it has yet to file a motion formally seeking the fees.

Lisa Helfend Meyer, the attorney for the woman, claimed the sanctions would reflect what she called “misuse of the discovery process” in a restraining order case that ended six months ago. She argued Bauer has not filed a motion for attorney fees and whatever the phone records might show “is not germane to any analysis of whether he would be entitled to any fees via a motion that does not exist.”
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PostPosted: Tue 2/22/22 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very curious - it tends to discredit her even more. I've come to the point where even though I hate all the negativity this has brought to our organization, and he is still responsible for getting involved, I think for whatever it's worth her part in it needs some legal accountability. I wish we could just "blot" this story out of history.
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PostPosted: Sun 8/21/22 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Braves DH Marcell Ozuna was arrested on DUI charges, on Friday in Atlanta - article from CBS sports

He was booed by his home fans today in the first game played since his arrest.
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