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PostPosted: Sat 12/31/22 8:31 pm    Post subject: Bauer Outage Dilemma Reply with quote

Since Trevor was reinstated last week, the Dodgers now have the choice of either letting him play or releasing him, which means they would be on the hook for $22 million this coming year. They must decide by January 6.

It's quite a dilemma for many reasons. First, there's a big question about Dodgers players appearing to voice concerns about him as a teammate. There's the issue of whether the Dodgers want the distraction this season or even to be associated with him based on the organizational "image." Some say moral values have no place in Major League Baseball. That's a tough one. We know he did violate the DV policy, even if he didn't face criminal charges. But that doesn't necessarily make him innocent.

To me, I see the issue of clubhouse cohesion as being more important. This decision shouldn't be taken lightly, because the team plans to bring up several key prospects this coming season, and with so many key players having departed, they're going to need veterans who are mature and show good leadership skills to help mentor and guide the kids along. I see Trevor as too much of a risk in this area.

There's also the question of where he might end up if they do release him. S.F.? S.D.? I see the latter as very unlikely because I can't imagine the Padres would want him that close to Ms. Hill. And if he did end up pitching for another team in the division, the Dodgers would be paying him to do so.

I'm sure Andrew Friedman is putting a lot of thought into this. L.A. needs starting pitching, for sure.

But I hope they do the right thing.
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PostPosted: Sat 12/31/22 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are all real concerns the team has to weigh and consider what their actions say in general. I tend to lean more toward what you're saying about the negativity with the prospects coming up. I liked Trevor but I will remain a Dodger fan no matter what they decide. I just hope I don't have to compromise just to be one. If anything I believe Doc is the guy who can keep some kind of unity on the team if they're focused on the goal of getting back to the playoffs and winning the World series again. This last October was embarrassing and cannot be repeated.
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PostPosted: Sun 1/1/23 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly hope my Padres would not be interested! I have to think the same about his proximity to that person he got involved with. I think it is very unlikely. But this is on the Dodgers, now. We shall see what happens at the end of this week!
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PostPosted: Sun 1/1/23 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, if the Dodgers do release him, it will be interesting to see how other teams react. Will someone just step up because they need pitching, or would nobody touch him? I can see it going either way.
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PostPosted: Mon 1/2/23 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unbelievably, there's even a petition on change.org--"Let Trevor Bauer pitch for the Dodgers." Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon 1/2/23 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill Shaikin's column in the L.A. Times:

Q&A: Will he stay or go? Here’s what is next for Trevor Bauer and the Dodgers


BY BILL SHAIKIN
STAFF WRITER

JAN. 2, 2023 1:31 PM PT

When an arbitrator truncated the suspension of Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer three days before Christmas, that opened a 14-day window for the team to decide whether to reinstate him or release him.

As of Monday, they had done neither. Under major league rules, they must decide by Friday.

As Dodgers fans await an announcement, here are some questions and answers on the team’s first big decision of 2023:

Where do the Dodgers stand?

The Dodgers would like to get a copy of the arbitrator’s written rationale for his decision, but that is unlikely. Although the arbitrator has delivered his decision, he has not yet delivered the explanatory report that follows. Even if he had, under baseball’s sexual assault and domestic violence policy, “the confidentiality of player information is essential to the success of this policy,” and so the league cannot disclose any details — even to the team.

Bauer is guaranteed $22.5 million this year. In considering their options, the Dodgers also could be quietly evaluating whether any other team might be willing to trade for Bauer. The other teams could wait to see whether the Dodgers release him, in which case they could sign Bauer for the league minimum of $720,000, with the Dodgers responsible for the remainder of his salary.

It is uncertain whether any other team would sign Bauer if the Dodgers released him, or would trade for him even if the Dodgers paid off most of the deal. It also is uncertain whether any team would acquire Bauer without the opportunity to meet with him first.

The Bauer decision ultimately rests with Mark Walter, the Dodgers’ chairman and controlling owner. In 2015, under Walter’s ownership, the Dodgers backed away from a proposed trade for pitcher Aroldis Chapman after allegations of domestic violence surfaced against him.

How did the Dodgers proceed with Julio Urías after he was suspended?

In 2019, Urías was investigated for domestic violence. He was not charged with a crime but was suspended by the league, and the Dodgers reinstated him after he served his suspension.

Bauer has not been charged with a crime and has served his suspension.

What else might the Dodgers consider?

Urías accepted his 20-game suspension and apologized for what he called “inappropriate conduct.” Bauer became the first player to challenge a suspension under the policy and wrote: “In the strongest possible terms, I deny committing any violation of the league’s domestic violence & sexual assault policy.”

Commissioner Rob Manfred and an independent arbitrator — jointly selected by the league and the union — examined the league’s evidence separately. Both men determined Bauer had violated the policy and should receive the longest suspension ever levied under that policy. Bauer’s case is the only one with more than one publicly known accuser; two Ohio women made similar allegations to the Washington Post and the league considered those as well.

Manfred issued a 324-game suspension, which would have extended into the 2024 season. The arbitrator reduced that to 194 games and allowed Bauer to return right away.

Bauer says he has done nothing wrong, so an apology likely would not be forthcoming. The Dodgers could ask him to be reflective in some way, perhaps to pledge to improve on what he said on video were “poor choices” he had made “in regards to the people I have chosen to associate with.”

On the day the Dodgers introduced Bauer in 2021, he and Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman said Bauer had learned from what each called “mistakes” amid allegations of using social media to harass women, spread conspiracy theories and use insensitive language.

Also, team executives spread word the Dodgers did not intend to pursue Carlos Correa, in part, for fear of a sharply divided reaction among the fan base because of his role in the Astros cheating scandal. The same executives would have to consider whether to endorse the return of Bauer despite a sharply divided reaction among the fan base.

Got any proof of that sharply divided reaction?

Yes. The Times asked readers whether the Dodgers should keep Bauer or release him, with 19,193 responses. The result: 51% to keep Bauer, 49% to release him.

How do the Dodgers players feel?

No current player is believed to have commented publicly since the arbitrator reinstated Bauer. But the front office has been told at least some players want Bauer back, people with knowledge of the situation but not authorized to speak publicly told The Times.

In 2021, shortly after Bauer was put on investigative leave, The Times reported a majority of players did not want Bauer back. (Of the 20 players who participated in the Dodgers’ 2021 postseason opener, six remain with the team.)

Hasn’t Bauer been cleared of these allegations?

Bauer was not charged with a crime, and the San Diego woman whose allegations triggered multiple investigations was denied a restraining order against him. However, when Bauer’s attorneys asserted that denial necessarily meant Bauer had not committed assault or battery, a federal court
ruled the denial just meant Bauer was not a threat to harm the woman in the future.

“The state court proceedings did not necessarily decide that Bauer did not batter or sexually assault [her],” U.S. District Judge James Selna ruled in November.

How would that be decided?

That issue might have been moot had Bauer not sued six parties for defamation. One of those parties was the San Diego woman, and she counter-sued for sexual battery. A trial is tentatively scheduled for February 2024.

So can the Dodgers reinstate Bauer and say the issue has been resolved?

Under the league’s authority, the investigative and discipline process for Bauer is complete.

Still, litigation continues. Five of the defamation suits are ongoing. Bauer’s attorneys have said “no settlements or cash offers have or ever will be made” to the woman, whose attorneys have said her life “has been turned into a nightmare by a powerful man who mercilessly battered her and counted on facing no consequences whatsoever for his despicable conduct.”

Bauer’s attorneys have said the woman “pursued bogus criminal and civil actions … to destroy Mr. Bauer’s reputation and baseball career, garner attention for herself, and extract millions of dollars from Mr. Bauer.”

Bauer might well level similar allegations in his official response to her counter-suit. That response is due Friday — the Dodgers’ deadline day for deciding whether to reinstate him.


Bill Shaikin, a California Sportswriter of the Year honoree, covers baseball and sports business for the Los Angeles Times.
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PostPosted: Mon 1/2/23 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's just crazy about that petition. Why do some fans think they know more than the players?
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PostPosted: Thu 1/5/23 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any more updates on this yet or do you have to wait until tomorrow?
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PostPosted: Thu 1/5/23 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, no word as Tres Reyes approach. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 1/7/23 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are Trevor-free.
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PostPosted: Sun 1/8/23 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankfully my team is not in the mix for him!

Good read in the Union Tribune today about how the Padres passed on making a run for him.
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PostPosted: Mon 1/9/23 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is such a relief! I don't know who would want to take the risk, maybe some team - but I don't see many who are serious contenders because they know he could disrupt whatever good vibes they might have. Let's now move on and leave him in the dust.
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PostPosted: Wed 1/11/23 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard there is interest in him from the Twins, but we will see. I am sure you ladies would love to at least get something in return.
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